Interview with Dr. Eric Tait – Semi-retired internist and entrepreneur
SECOND SPEAKER ANNOUNCED: Dr. Eric Tait works one day a week seeing patients, the other 6 days of the week he’s getting income through his own entrepreneurial ventures and investments.
I am happy he has agreed to speak at BootcampMD – the conference for savvy physicians who want to crush it, and create their own business empire! Can’t wait for him to share the “secret sauce” at the workshop, I’ll be taking notes for sure. It’s happening Jan 26-27. Tickets are going quick!
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TRANSCRIPT TO FOLLOW:
Dr. Mike: Systematizing your business, systematizing your physician life. My guest Dr Eric Tait on this episode of BootstrapMD.
Dr. Mike: Hey guys, this is Dr. Mike Woo-Ming. Welcome to another episode of BootstrapMD. Really excited about the guest that I’m about to present to you guys. I’m sure you’ve heard the name if you’ve been on any of the Facebook physician forums. He goes in there, he gives lots of great information. And I finally got to connect with him on the phone, and I’m excited that he accepted my invitation to become a speaker at the upcoming BootcampMD that’s happening in January.
Dr. Mike: We’ll talk more about that as we get on with the conversation, but first I want to introduce Eric. Eric is, I like this, a semi retired internist. He lives in Houston. He’s a native of Mount Vernon, New York. He attended Baylor College of Medicine and Rice University doing a dual degree MD MBA program, so he already … He knew kind of business was up in the forefront of his mind.
Dr. Mike: His internal medicine residency at UTMB Galveston. Also, along with this clinical work, he’s president of Vernon Ville Asset Management, an investment firm that helps individuals gain access to private investment opportunities that create passive income and or capital gains while avoiding the volatility publicly traded stock and bond market. He created the Physician’s Road, and that’s a place where physicians can create their lives in medicine on their own terms, by focusing on five key areas.
Dr. Mike: We’ve got wealth creation, professional practice improvement, health, external relationships and personal development. He’s married with two children. Enjoys traveling, speaking to physicians group in person and on his podcast or believe it’s called the Physician’s Road. Is that right?
Dr. Eric Tait: Yes. Yes it is.
Dr. Mike: (This might upset the) pulmonologists, but he enjoys smoking a good cigar. But, first of all, Eric, I want to welcome you to the program today.
Dr. Eric Tait: Thank you for having me. I’ve followed you in your groups on Facebook, and I realized that one day we were going to end up crossing paths because you know a whole lot and are very adept at helping physicians breakthrough the mindset that we often have of trying to do everything ourselves and kind of being locked into things. And I said, okay, Mike and I have to figure out a way to work together. You didn’t know that at the time, but I know I’ve been following you.
Dr. Mike: All right. Okay. Appreciate the kind words. But Eric, I want to talk about kind of, there’s always … I’m a big superhero nerd and there’s always like a secret origin related to the spider man and superman. So you’ve got all these different things, you seem rather young. I’m not going to mention your age. But you’re semi retired, which is incredible. And so I just want to talk, how did you get into the MD, the MBA and all the different investment businesses that you’ve started?
Dr. Eric Tait: So it’s interesting. In college, I was lucky in that, I went to Morehouse College in Atlanta. And well, many of us go to Baylor College of Medicine for medical school, so we have a pretty good contingent that comes here to Houston from Atlanta. And I knew actually as a sophomore that they were setting up the MD/MBA program. So anybody who knew me growing up, knew I was always kind of a hustler. I always was entrepreneurially minded always.
Dr. Eric Tait: I had a business in college, businesses in high school. They might even service businesses where I was hiring myself out, but I was always kind of on that kind of hustle. People didn’t realize in college it actually was pre med and was going to medical school. And so I knew Baylor was setting up the MD/MBA program when I was still in college, and I figured that I wouldn’t have to take the GMAT if I applied to Baylor and got in.
Dr. Eric Tait: And that’s exactly what ended up happening. I was part of the second group of students that went through that dual degree program. So it was very early on in the ark. And so for me, it really … I knew I wanted to have my hand in business. I just didn’t know what shape that would take and what form that would be. And so once I got to medical school, my college roommate called me. Because he and I have been kind of entrepreneurial minded.
Dr. Eric Tait: We’d lived together, different places. We looked at buying some real estate in college, didn’t pull the trigger. He said, ”Hey man, you gotta read this book. You gotta read this book.” So this was 1998, summer of 1998. I was two months into medical school. He was up in New York, decided not to go to medical school, was doing some pharmaceutical rep stuff. And he’s like, ”Hey man, you’ve got to read it.”
Dr. Eric Tait: And that was kind of the purple book, rich dad poor dad book. And what that did was open, open my eyes to the understanding of divorcing labor from your lifestyle and divorcing working for money. I have physicians in my family so medicine wasn’t a foreign concept to me, but creating a self sustaining business that did not require me to be in it all the time, was not a concept that I had been introduced to.
Dr. Eric Tait: I wasn’t even introduced to that in business school, which I ended up going to like a year later after the first year of medical school. Right? They’re just not concepts that are really taught in terms of, how do we create things that will exist without our continuous full time labor input? And how do we build things using our minds and processes and systems so that we’re not always the cog in the machine making the machine go? So for me the origin story is really more an evolution, the this massive awakening necessarily.
Dr. Mike: Now when you got out of residency, did you go straight into a job? Did you already
Dr. Mike: start looking at different investments? Where did your path go?
Dr. Eric Tait: So when I was a first year medical student, I actually bought the condo that I was in. Did the calculation realized it was going to be cheaper for me to buy it than to continue to pay rent. So I said, okay, let me buy this. And then when I went to residency I rented it out to another Baylor medical student. [inaudible 00:06:17] is about 45 minutes South of Houston, right on the Gulf of Mexico. And so, I hadn’t done any training yet in terms of real estate or know how to do it. I just kind of intuitively understood it a little bit.
Dr. Eric Tait: My mother had some rental property. My dad had some rental property in Manhattan when we were growing up. Didn’t necessarily do well but was there, so I wasn’t as afraid of tenants necessarily. And then I just said, you know what? it’s self contained. It’s a condo. I’ll just buy a home warranty policy. Let them just pay for [inaudible 00:06:49] and take it out [inaudible 00:06:49] if anything breaks, let’s just see how it goes. It’s only for a couple of years. I had already started investing before I got out.
Dr. Eric Tait: And so I got out of residency, the question was for me, okay. I learned enough in business school to realize that, because healthcare management entrepreneurship my concentration. I understood that the PCP model, the cognitive specialty model, was completely disadvantaged in the payment system. So I understood that. So I said, you know what? I still like the longterm nature and taking care of patients for an extended period of time.
Dr. Eric Tait: I’ll make money doing something else. So I said I will become an employed primary care physician. So I joined a mentor of mine, who lived a very nice life, lived in one of their most expensive neighborhoods in the country because he knew a little bit of the ins and outs of primary care medicine. I liked his lifestyle. I’m like, all right, I’ll do this. But what I did do was say that I’m only going to work, excuse me, four and a half hours initially, I mean four and a half days a week initially, and then eventually down to four days a week. I wasn’t going to be five days a week, nose to the grindstone, 30 patients a day. I was like, listen, pay me less. That’s fine. Pay me commensurate with my productivity. I’m fine with that. But I always carved out that time to be able to build something of my own that did not require me to be in it all the time.
Dr. Mike: Yeah. So when you joined this, what was the transformation to go on from, I believe what we’ve talked on the phone yesterday, you work in about a day a week in medicine right now?
Dr. Eric Tait: Yes.
Dr. Mike: Four and a half days to one day. How’d the transition go? Yeah.
Dr. Eric Tait: So, really it was just a matter of for 10 straight years I just worked, right? I worked with my mentor for a while. And those of us know the story. You don’t stay in the same job very long as a physician these days. Right?
Dr. Mike: Right.
Dr. Eric Tait: So I was four years with a mentor. Then four years with a multi specialty practice and then, interestingly enough, two years with the hospital. Which was ironic because I’m part owner of the hospital, so I was kind of semi employing myself, but there were lots of layers of management in between. And so after 10 years, my wife and I, we had built up enough income from our investing that I was able to, with specific types of contracts, replace a good portion of that income and say, okay, I can do this one day a week, still have enough income from medicine to pay a few bills here and there.
Dr. Eric Tait: Nowhere near normal physician, quote-on-quote salary. But we had income from other sources, and so it was just a 10 year process of building up those income streams. Just like anything else, right? I tell people this is a marathon. It’s not a sprint. You’re not going to snap your fingers and become financially independent overnight, just like people are building money into their 401Ks and IRAs over an extended period of time. You could just as easily be building those monies and income streams over that same extended period of time, but it just won’t take quite as long.
Dr. Mike: Now, there’s probably going to be some physicians who are watching this or listening to this interview right now and go, hey, this sounds like he’s probably got a lot of money saved up. Maybe it’s from his family. Is your wife in medicine. I don’t want to go into your finances. But, were you born with a lot of money?
Dr. Eric Tait: Trust baby.? No, I was born comfortably middle class, but I had student loans from medical school. I have student loans from business school. My wife has student loans from medical school and undergraduate as well, so we came out with probably 400, 450,000 between us. And we were both primary care physicians, so neither one of us are highly paid specialist or anything like that.
Dr. Mike: Right. Right.
Dr. Eric Tait: And so, no. We had student loans, we didn’t have families trust funds and passing money down to us or any of those kinds of things. We just made a very concerted effort to put our money towards things that would generate income that would allow us to work less. And so she was able, even though she’s still working, she has a very flexible job. She says no to things because she doesn’t have to, from a financial standpoint, she doesn’t have to say yes to things. We made a concerted effort as a team right out of residency to say, okay, this is how we’re going to build our life and this is what it’s gonna look like.
Dr. Mike: And I think that’s part of it. It sounds like you have a spouse who’s also probably had some entrepreneurial aspirations or at least was very supportive of you, which may not often be the case with some of our colleagues. Now talking to someone like you, Eric, you’re a doctor that I don’t get to see a lot of, don’t get exposed to a lot of.
Dr. Mike: I work with a lot of doctors who unfortunately, I don’t know what it is, but we tend to be very risk averse. Right? As doctors, you kind of want to do things by the book. What were like one or two things in your life that prevented you from having that voice in your head saying, hey, maybe I should just do what 90 percent of other doctors do. Pay down my loans and don’t go into these other things that I may not know a lot about.
Dr. Eric Tait: Well, so it’s interesting. I have a very different sense of what risk is. And so a lot of it is just mindset. What’s the definition of insanity? Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.
Dr. Mike: Right.
Dr. Eric Tait: None of us can say that physicians, whether we were going through training, through medical school, being out in practice, can say that physicians as a lot or a happy group. So the question that I asked myself was, well, if everybody’s doing the same thing and most of them are not happy or not satisfied in what they’re doing, why would I do that same thing? Why if more than 50 percent of the profession, if they had the chance and could make the same amount of money doing something else would leave, why would I follow that pathway? And so for me, what’s risk, right?
Dr. Eric Tait: We are indoctrinated as into what risk is and what risk isn’t by people who have a vested interest to sell us things. For the people who take a different path, most of the time they don’t have anything to sell you. They’re just going to figure out how to live the life that most supports them in terms of how they want to live. And so it’s really just a question of, what kind of freedoms did I want? Right?
Dr. Eric Tait: As physicians, we’re all gonna have a certain amount of financial freedom from the standpoint, as long as we work will have money in our pocket. So none of us are going to be destitute. None of us are ever going to be on the side or homeless, unless we choose to be. The question isn’t so much whether or not we can make money or make a livelihood. The question is, what kind of life do we really want to live?
Dr. Eric Tait: So that to me was the question I was asking, right? What’s the risk that I go down the pathway of everybody else who is not fulfilled, who doesn’t like what they’re doing, who wants to get out, who’s feeling burned out? That’s a pretty [inaudible 00:13:49] maximum capacity, right? So what are the chances I’m not going to feel that way. To me, risk was not doing something different. Right?
Dr. Mike: Right.
Dr. Eric Tait: And so I think we’ve been indoctrinated to think the risk is one thing when it actually is something very different.
Dr. Mike: Right. Right. Again, it’s different definitions of risk. Starting a side job may sound risky, but so is your unhappiness. One of the things that I had with one of my students was, she was a radiologist and she’s been depressed. Well, I asked her, how long have you been depressed? She’s been depressed for 25 years, and I go, well, why don’t you get out what you’re doing? She was depressed at her job. She says, well, I live a lifestyle that leads me to this and it’s too risky for me to do that. Well, now you’ve got bigger things that I can can answer for you. But you’re already in the position that you’re at. Right? The way that you are in life is, you made those decisions to get to where you want to be. Did you have any mentors or someone to help you to get to where you are these days?
Dr. Eric Tait: Oh, absolutely. I believe in paying and hiring good mentors and coaches. I don’t try to do this stuff by myself, so I have speaking mentors, I have capital raising mentors, I have marketing mentors, I have real estate investment mentors. I have paid lots of money to learn how to do things or to pay people who know how to do them, to do them for me. It’s very rare that you will ever see me trying to do something on my own without somebody next to me who’s an expert in doing it.
Dr. Mike: Right, right. And again, that’s a great point. I do also see what doctors, we tend to be control freaks. We tend to want to do everything on our own and we’ll spend hours, days try to figure it out themselves when there are other people who have already done this. Someone like you, Eric, you’ve already done this. It makes sense to follow a guy like you than just trying to figure out on your own.
Dr. Mike: I’m definitely not the guy you want to follow in stocks or real estate. I can tell you how to lose money on real estate, but using the guy, Eric, maybe someone that you want to be followed. So I’m going to make a transitIon here. Let’s talk about some of the businesses that you have. You made an interesting point about systematization, about how you’re not the person who’s always kind of running the ship or responsible for everything that you do. Can you talk a little bit about your businesses and how you use systematization to get you to have a successful business?
Dr. Eric Tait: No, absolutely. And we can look at it on multiple levels. [inaudible 00:16:47]. Too long. Okay. So if we were to talk about it, let’s stay in medicine for a second. We were fortunate enough as a small group of primary care physicians and one specialist. We’re fortunate to be able to partner with a medicare advantage plan and to help kind of paste [inaudible 00:17:01] already going to see, to be able to participate in a more meaningful way in the revenue stream and management process with our patients.
Dr. Eric Tait: So we were already going to be doing the work anyway by seeing the patients. It was just going to be a couple of extra meetings. No, literally one extra meeting a month and maybe some emails back and forth in terms of setting up the specialist network and those kinds of things, for us to much more meaningfully participate in revenue stream of patients that we’re already seeing.
Dr. Eric Tait: And we were partnering with a company that already had all of the back end infrastructure in terms of utilization management, utilization review, case management and all of those types of things. So for me it was a no brainer saying, listen, I’m already going to do the work. I’m willing to take a little bit of quote-on-quote risk to be able to participate and be able to mold how care is going to be given. So, that’s just one way of lookIng at what you’re already doing. How do you vertically integrate that and then how do you put … Systems are partnered with systems in place that can make it more easy for you.
Dr. Eric Tait: If we take it to … At the time when I was doing real estate investing, just my wife and I and it was just us. We weren’t doing larger projects. It was small apartments, single family homes, condo stuff. I went to train and learn how to put systems in place on how to do this. How do you write into your leases to make your life easier if you’re going to be self managing. How do you build your roster of tradespeople so that you’re not the one who, if something comes to you as a problem, you’re making literally a transfer over to somebody. How do you set up bank accounts so that people can automatically put things in so that you’re not the one who’s tracing these kinds of things down, right?
Dr. Eric Tait: Little things like that in terms of how to make life easier for you in that process. And literally, the Physician’s Road grew out of the investment side of things because I had lot of physicians would come back to me for non investing things and I said, okay. They were coming one on one, right?
Dr. Eric Tait: And I’m not necessarily a coach, and there’s no way I could sit one on one with that many people. So I said, okay, how do I create a system that can get my own personal [inaudible 00:19:16] out to the world in a way that I don’t have to be on the phone with people one on one to explain to them what this stuff is. So using the podcast, using the website, using a customer relationship management system, auto responders, auto triggers so that when people want certain kinds of information, all you have to do is put their information in and it will happen. Seamlessly, without me being around, without me being a bottleneck, without me haVing to be in the middle of any of those types of things.
Dr. Eric Tait: And so that ultimately was a culmination of try and systematize all these other things in my life and I said, okay, well here’s information. The easiest thing you can systematize and there are enough tools out there that you can use to replicate yourself and what you’re doing . You have to do the work once. You don’t have to keep doing it over and over and over again.
Dr. Mike: Yeah, it makes sense. For example, in my business. I’ve had a personal assistant for going on 10 years now. And, even simple tasks that ideally, whether that be getting dry Cleaning or getting the carwash, those kinds of things. We’re doing tasks that really you could hire somebody 10 or $15 to do and then when it comes time to say, well, I don’t have time to start a business. But I see the same people, they’re pulling weeds or mowing the lawn, they’re doing all these different thin
Dr. Mike: How Much do you get paid as a doctor? You’re probably not getting paid 10 or $15, but you’re doing the same amount of work [inaudible 00:20:45]. You’re doing all these other tests that you’d easily hire somebody to do. What do you think-
Dr. Eric Tait: Yeah. I think we devalue our time as physicians. We feel like, well, I don’t want to pay somebody to do that, so I’m just gonna do it myself. But what people don’t realize is time is finite, right? That’s time you’re not spending with them or partner or parent or friend or colleague or leisure time. There are just things that aren’t getting done because in many ways I see it with some of my investors is, we don’t look at our capital and our resources as tools to be used for our convenience.
Dr. Eric Tait: They take on this mythical palace manic situation, and I get that. A lot of it can be from if you grew up with money and those kinds of things, right? But ultimately as physicians if we [inaudible 00:21:44] step back and look at it. Like you talked about it from starting a business. The risk of starting a business.
Dr. Eric Tait: The only risk is money and time.
Dr. Mike: Right.
Dr. Eric Tait: Right? It’s only money and time. You can lose money, you can go make money. You can do more shifts. You can do whatever, right? So we can always make money. That’s not an issue. And we’re. We should already have our disability insurance in place, like with me and my investors, they have to have any disability insurance before they can invest with us. You’ve got to have your disability insurance in place. You’re insuring your income stream and then you have your life insurance in place here. You’re insuring your death. So now really, what risk do you have? We can always make more money.
Dr. Mike: Right.
Dr. Eric Tait: The question is, are you willing to take the steps to make money in a different kind of way? In a way that’s more fulfilling, right?
Dr. Mike: Yeah. And I think another thing too, it’s not only just risk of money. I also see it in and then I know why this is, but it’s a risk of putting yourself out there. Oh, but I saw Dr. Eric Tait and he’s doing investing. That means he doesn’t want to be a doctor. Has nothing to do with that. What do you say to doctors? Because you’ve seen doctors do the same thing. They don’t want to put themselves out there, but maybe you could give them some advice.
Dr. Eric Tait: Yeah. See that’s a personal conception of yourself. And so that’s something that from a personal development standpoint, people have to work on. How do you crowd out the external world to really go within yourself to figure out what you truly want? So take out all the expectations, familial expectation, religious expectations, racial expectations, gender expectations, strip all that away and really get with yourself to figure out what you do is you really want, and then rebuild your life around those kinds of things.
Dr. Eric Tait: It’s a hard process. Because it means you oftentimes have got to get rid of people, people who may be related to, people who may be very close to, people you may be married to you, maybe in a longterm relationship with. And that’s why [inaudible 00:23:50] is a big cog in our kind of physician’s role model, because nothing changes until you change, right?
Dr. Eric Tait: The tools to do all these things are equally accessible to everyone.
Dr. Mike: Right.
Dr. Eric Tait: Those who choose to do it make a concise decision to say, I’m going to change this thing. They don’t have super powers, they don’t have … They are human beings that put their pant leg on one time and the other. They just decided that they wanted something different. And so before anything else, the personal development and really getting deep down into what it is that you want, that’s the only way change happens. Change can’t come externally. Change has to come internally.
Dr. Mike: Yeah. I think that’s a great segue to the event though we’re going to be having in January a BootcampMD is, I feel a lot of doctors, they want to do something but they’re not willing to take the time or to get out. My income changed when I actually went out and networked with other doctors. Meeting someone like yourself [inaudible 00:24:50] could be life changing, in my opinion, to another doctor. Others talk about this event that’s coming up. You’re going to be speaking on a few topics. What kind of topics or what kind of information are you going to be sharing with the doctors at BootcampMD.
Dr. Eric Tait: So I think I’m going to talk really around the concept of leverage. Leverage to me is in many ways all powerful. And leveraging your time, leveraging your resources. Just kind of things we were talking about earlier. There are ways to get to where you want to go, in terms of activities outside of medicine that aren’t going to require you to spend 10 years figuring stuff out. We’re really going to talk about kind of getting a clear understanding of what you’re trying to do and accomplish, and then how do you go about building the team and resources to really supercharge your growth to get there. Because you have to grow, right?
Dr. Eric Tait: If you’re going to learn something new, you’re going to have to grow and become not somebody new, but you’re going to at least learn some different skillsets. And, how do you do that with the least amount of time and effort in the process.
Dr. Eric Tait: And so we’re really going to talk about systematizing whatever it is your passions are and as you pursue them, how do you put things in place to help you achieve what you want to achieve in much shorter timeframes, a mentor that talks about collapsing timeframes. And so, anyone who knows me, knows I’m a huge seminar junkie. And it’s funny because my income skyrocketed once I started going to non physician stuff.
Dr. Eric Tait: And so bringing new ideas into my brain, really is what charge me. And I think that, and we talked about this a lot, in that we as physicians center only do medical conferences and medical seminars. I actually don’t do any. I get all my CMEs from UpToDate. I do so many non medical seminars because I want new ideas. Because, I don’t know if it was Zig Ziglar or Jim Rohn who talked about it. The difference between you today and you five years from now is the people you meet and the books, tapes, CDs, podcasts and information you ingest. Otherwise you will be no different than you were in the past. And so you’ve got to put new ideas into your head if you want to change things about your life.
Dr. Mike: That’s awesome. That’s awesome. Yeah. So again, Dr. Eric Tait will be joining us at BootcampMD. It’s happening in San Diego coming in January 26th, 27th where you get to meet and connect with like minded doctors. I’ll be sharing the kind of the strategies that helped me when I left medicine several years ago, started a multimillion dollar business and now work … I guess I could say I’m semi retired as well.
Dr. Mike: I only work a handful of hours, but I’ve got passive incomes that’s helping me with my income and with my family. If that interests someone like you, you need to be here, you need to be coming to BootcampMD. It could literally cost you thousands of dollars if not there. For those who aren’t going to BootcampMD, those who shouldn’t go to BootcampMD, if you like where you’re at right now. You like the way medicine is going. You don’t want to connect with other doctors who have brought in passive income, passive wealth. Those are the reasons why you shouldn’t be. Obviously I’m being facetious here, but Dr. Eric Tait, anything else you’d like to share with the audience before we leave today?
Dr. Eric Tait: Yeah, just that some of my most transformational conversations and experiences have come at seminars and workshops, and so that’s why I do them. Anyone who knows me knows I do them religiously. And so, oftentimes it’s not what happens from the stage. It’s with your co-attendees. It’s around the bar. It’s just side conversations that happened where a magical spark will lead you in a completely different direction or will give you the key to unlock something you just couldn’t figure out.
Dr. Eric Tait: And it’s a simple conversation that somebody is going to make it so much easier for you to move to whatever the next level is that you’re trying to move to. So I highly recommend whether you come to this conference, you have to start getting out and putting new ideas in your brain, in person. Everybody likes to do web stuff these days. Nobody likes to do webinars and all these kinds of things, but nothing beats being in person, on the ground, in front of people, belly to belly, talking over things and just rolling through ideas, and getting around great minds to just talk about things in general.
Dr. Mike: Yeah, I love the point you about going to conferences that are nonmedical. If you’re like me, you’ve probably go to conferences where you’re the only physician in the room.
Dr. Eric Tait: Yes. All the time.
Dr. Mike: I just got back from an event in Florida. It was about medical marketing and I go, why? I know there’s one other family physician in there in a room of nearly 100 people. Why are there only two doctors here? And it was about marketing your clinic, which is one of my companies. That’s what we do, but why am I the only one here. If you want to learn about becoming a surgeon, what do you do? You follow a viable surgeon. [inaudible 00:30:13] real estate, where do you go? You go to the real estate conferences, right? If you want to learn about success, you go to success conferences, it just makes sense.
Dr. Mike: Eric, again, thank you for joining us on this. I look forward to connecting with you in San Diego. And here’s the thing with my speakers who are coming, they’re not going to be hiding behind the stage. They’re not going to be going … I probably am being presumptuous, but your private jet isn’t picking you up on the way back to Houston on the ride. You’re going to be-
Dr. Eric Tait: No private jet. I’m probably flying SouthWest for this one.
Dr. Mike: Okay. You’re going to be out with the cigars and sharing your knowledge…
Dr. Eric Tait: And when I’m not on the stage, my plan is to be right in the audience taking notes like everyone else. Because this is an educational time and this is what I spend my time doing.
Dr. Mike: All right, so I hope to see you guys coming up in January at BootcampMD. Thanks again for watching and we’ll hopefully see you guys soon. Take care everybody
Dr. Eric Tait: Great. Look forward to seeing you all.
Dr. Mike: All right guys, I don’t have to hit you over the head. If you’d love to register for BootcampMD coming up in January, here is the link. You don’t have any excuses. I want to meet you. I want to hang out with you. I want to share with you strategies that can make a big difference in your physician life. You get to meet great guys like Dr. Eric. Tait, and some other additional speakers soon to be announced. Hope to see and talk to you guys soon. This is Dr. Mike Mike. Keep moving forward.