How has your goal of creating more revenue generating assets (RGA) this year going? If it’s a little slower than what you would want, you may get inspiration from my interview with this emergency physician.
Chester Zoda, MD was a former New York doctor who was able to replace his clinical income by developing online courses. He now makes his mission to help other healthcare professionals replace their income within 12 months to get into the $350 billion online course industry.
This was a fascinating interview that I know you will enjoy, and hopefully take action to build your own passive income wealth!
Dr. Chester Zoda’s Free Training – How Doctors Build Passive Income With Online Courses
Dr. Mike: Hey guys, this is Dr. Mike Woo-Ming. Welcome to another edition of Bootstrap MD. We have been talking about passive income if you’ve been listening to the podcast lately, I tried to teach you guys about building avenue assets, try to build more assets, revenue-generating assets, RGA.
And one of the passive income streams that you can do is having online courses. I actually talked about this a few episodes ago, and today we’re lucky we have an online course expert and he’s an emergency room physician. And actually guys he left medicine. We’re good. We’ll talk about his story because it’s pretty interesting and exciting and how he did this and how we did it through creating online courses.
You may have heard of them. You may have seen them on social media. Like he’s been helping other doctors and actually all healthcare professionals start up their own courses and making it for. Making really good money been building this passive income streams. I don’t want to, I don’t want to take the give, take the cat out of the bag, so to speak.
So I’m going to have you listen to him today. We’ve got on the show, Dr. Chester Zoda, Dr. Chester, how are you doing today? Hey doing
Chester Zoda MD: Hey doing good.
Dr. Mike: Awesome. You actually have been, your name has been coming about lately. I’ve had some people who’ve asked me to have you on my program. They say, “Hey, do you know anything about this Chester Zoda?”
I guess you also go by Dr. Digital. So who is this guy I’ve been seeing on social media? So I said, I gotta have this guy on, wanna find out about his story and just, you don’t see too many people, too many doctors now. Out of medicine and now teaching digital courses. So this is pretty awesome.
I thank you for coming on. I know you’re pretty busy. So tell us about your story. You started as a emergency room doctor and how did that become now becoming a educator on online courses?
Chester Zoda MD: Yeah, it’s a pleasure to be here. And to be quite honest, over the last few years, I’ve just been keeping it on the downhill in terms of social media, mostly just because I tend to be a much more private individual and a bit more reserved.
And most of my time is actually focused on my team now is we’re starting to grow and serve in to ensure student success. So I actually spend most of my time working with full-time full-time clients, but yeah, I’m happy to be on the show. In terms of my story I essentially started, I’ve always had am entrepreneurial spirit and I’ve always wanted to, I’ve always had a passion for teaching and serving others with the expertise that I had.
But I remember like back in medical school, I just saw especially like how inefficient the entire system was. We would have lecturers. I have to rent out a lecture room just to deliver a talk. They would have to commute just to go to work or even go to a academic conference. And at the same time these are a lot of doctors simply just undervalue their own expertise.
We go two years of school in the October, not get enough. And sometimes we even feel like imposters, but the truth is there’s a giant market out there that starving for our expertise and can really it’s a really underserved market. And if we can simply package the expertise that we already have into the online world, we can make massive impact, but also a lot of highly profitable income.
And so in terms of my own story… people say that you only change out of inspiration or desperation. And for me, it was definitely out of desperation because back during the pandemic, I was working 80 a hundred hour work weeks, like three night shifts, every single week. I’m an emergency physician.
So you can, a lot of all your audience probably can relate, but I was just so burned out and I’d see a lot of my seniors, a lot of my colleagues they would just retire some of them even. They didn’t make it when they were serving on the front lines of medicine. And so I realized just how short-term life really can be.
And I started thinking ahead and looking for ways where I can generate side income and eventually either cut back on my clinical hours or even replace my clinical income and At first, it took some time to get started because I didn’t know what I was doing, but the more I ventured off into the online education space, the better the results I got.
And as my colleagues started noticing how fast I was growing, they asked me if I can help them do the same. And that’s really how this entire thing just transpired. And the more I started teaching them, my methods, the better results they started getting. And now. We have the digital doctor program serving over 350 students all around the world that are packaging, the expertise that they already have into online courses so that they can have the freedom that they deserve. These health care providers.
Dr. Mike: Now we talk about in medicine, see one, do one, teach one. So with your first course, and you don’t have to give away your niche or anything like that maybe you can talk about some of the struggles or maybe just hit it right out of the park as soon as you launch your course.
Chester Zoda MD: Yeah. So when it comes to struggles, a lot of doctors, they think that you need like the perfect idea. That’s that’s never been done before, or maybe they have a lot of, they just have a lot of delusions when it comes to what really makes a good business and what really makes the great business person and an online course or a side income, it’s like a side business that you essentially start.
A lot of doctors would think, Hey, just because someone else in the market has done it, that means I can’t do it. Oh, the market is too saturated. Oh, all the information is out there for free. Oh. Why don’t I just search on PubMed? Why don’t I just search, go to the library, rent out a book and why would anyone buy my course?
And those are a lot of limiting beliefs that I also struggled through in the early stages. In fact I always shared this with my own students, but one of my biggest limiting beliefs was actually my accent. And I was just super insecure with. Just speaking in general. I’m sure like a lot of us can relate when we hear our voices again in a recording or something.
It just sounds a bit off. And this thing held me back for years. I just would never publish anything that I created, even though like my students would tell me they’re good, I would just never publish it online. And it really held me back a lot of the, a lot of the years, but those, I would say those are my early struggles. Until I actually, cracked the code. was able to create online courses on repeat.
Dr. Mike: Now let’s talk about online courses because there are places out there where you can create courses like udemy.com. I’m sure you’re familiar with and all these, but then you look at the prices… they’re like $10, $15. And so how do you, what do you tell your students when they see this, are you charging 10 or $15? Are you charging a lot more for your courses?
Chester Zoda MD: Yeah, that’s a good point. So a lot of ’em, so that’s on the market that you want to play in, right? It’s kinda like when you mentioned in the book, it’s about being The Positioned Physician.
If you want to, you need to be able to charge your worth. And the first thing that the first hurdle that a lot of doctors need to go through is that they need to realize. That just by the fact that they went through medical school, just based on the fact that they have years of medical expertise under their belt, that they, that what they have in their head is actually valuable in the market.
And this is a completely, it’s a completely different shift because a lot of us, when we’re working like 80 hour work weeks or in the hospital or the clinic, we’re just around. By other doctors, other nurses, other healthcare providers that we almost feel like a fish in this, in the ocean. We just don’t value water at all.
The fish in the ocean does not value water. And in the same way, we just don’t value our expertise. But yet, on the other hand, on the other hand there’s a giant market out there that’s starting for our treaties. And the analogy that I like to use is imagine if you were starting a course on English, right? If you were trying to teach English in the middle of America and not a lot of people would actually want a course on English. Like most of us can speak it relatively well. What they don’t realize is that if we simply plop this person out, like even if they filter SATs it’s, as long as they can speak colloquial English, and we just pop them in the middle of China, suddenly there’s a starving market out there that starving for their expertise, but they can really help.
It’s completely underserved and they can make a giant impact. They can change lives in the middle of China. And it’s all about positioning, which is something that you mentioned it’s it’s positioning. That you already have into an underserved market. And that’s exactly what we have our students do.
So based on that position, We can then determine a pricing offer that stat helps you stand apart from the rest of the herd. We’re not trying to, we’re not trying to play the low game where we’re charging 10 to $20. If that’s all we’re, if if that’s all we’re doing, then it would take us like a thousand courses each month just to make a 10 case hour.
That’s not what we’re doing. That’s a lot of, that’s a lot of hurdles. That’s a lot of mistakes, a mess. And at the same time, You attract who you are, you attract lower quality customers. And so we teach our students to package their courses at anywhere from a thousand dollars, us up to 5,000, maybe even 10,000 us.
And these are courses combined with different consulting offers that they want to include. And so on and so forth. And all of this is like inside our program. So I don’t want to bore you guys with the details.
Dr. Mike: That’s awesome. And I have been saying that for years, the doctors do devalue their price.
And if your course is $10, and you think you want to retire, you want to make $10,000 a month. That’s a thousand students and plus you’ll probably do a crappy job in serving them. So I’ve always felt that it’s important to charge what you’re worth. Because really it is a win-win because the more you charge, the more you can serve them.
We we want to help everybody, but we know that, we’re all limited by 24 hours, 365 days out of the year. And like you said, if you’re charging $10, then that means that you think that. Information you have is worth about $10. And so why would I do that? It’s like free advice, right?
How many how much is free advice worth? It’s free. You might give them the keys to success, but they’re not going to listen to you if you’re going to be charging so cheap. So I’m glad you brought that up. Another thing that people will have some limiting beliefs is you mentioned your accent is…
I don’t want my show, my face on camera. I don’t want to be out there. I’m a professional professional and I don’t want my face out there. What do you say to those people? Cause I know you deal with a lot of health, peer professionals, mostly doctors. How do you instruct them?
Chester Zoda MD: Yeah. That is a really good point.
Before I started even working or that putting my face on camera, it definitely feels a bit awkward. I totally understand that. I was a shy kid growing up and it’s very easy to tell yourself these kinds of stories that I’m this person, I’m a shy kid and therefore. I don’t put myself on camera.
I’m a shy kid and therefore I don’t do any public speaking. I’m a shy kid. And therefore, I’m going to sit at the corner, not present in the ward rounds, not present at this academic conference, even though it’s a fantastic opportunity. It’s very easy to tell ourselves these limiting stories from the past that I am this, therefore, I am not that, but change comes from stepping outside your comfort zone, because if you don’t.
If you change nothing, then nothing changes. And if you want different results, then you’re going to have to do something different, right? Because the choice of that led to where you are today. The life that you’re living today are based on the consequences of the choices that you made in the past.
And so this is something that I always try to keep in mind because if I want to have achieved, achieve something new or something different, it doesn’t have to be something big. It could just be something different. I would have to do something new. I realized at that point that, Hey, I’m not going to let this hold me back.
I love teaching. I’ve really liked serving other people. I like helping other people with the knowledge that I have. It makes me feel, it makes me feel like I’m empowering them with something that they didn’t know. And it makes me feel like I’m helping them solve puzzles. So problems that brings so much fulfillment to me.
And so I’m not going to let my own deficiencies or my own character traits hold me back from adding into the marketplace and into my students’ hands. And so when I just made that clear to myself, then it was very simple. It’s not a character defect. It’s more like a skill that I need to acquire, whether it’s public speaking in front of camera, and I’m not saying I’m the, on the best.
I’m not like like some Kardashians on the internet or their social media. I’m just a guy that. I was able to make a decent size of living we’re pacing, my clinical income and leave medicine completely. And I have a story to share. And for those that want to listen. Then I’d love to share that story.
And that’s one thing to keep in mind, like, whenever you want to do something new, you gotta step outside your comfort zone. You just gotta, you just gotta do those skillsets. And that’s also part of the reason I love working with doctors because they, a lot of them have that mindset, right? None of us came out of our mother’s womb, knowing how to do brain surgery or knowing how to, patch up a hernia.
None of us, all of us acquire those skillsets throughout medical school. Our use of training, even things like public speaking, even things like organization, time management, soft skills like that, public speaking, speaking in camera is just one of them. And and yeah and in today’s day and age, it’s like without those skills that you’ll just be left behind.
Dr. Mike: We’re going to go over some self-limiting beliefs, just with, people who are listening to this, you say, Hey, I want to start an online course. And another self limiting belief is it can be really expensive. So how much does it cost to create an online course? Do you have to, do you feel like you need the best camera, the best equipment, and also how much time do you, should you devote to creating an online course? What do you tell your students?
Chester Zoda MD: That is a really good question. In terms of capital, it really doesn’t take that much. Let’s check it out. Like right now, me and Dr. Mike are just hanging out over a Zoom call. We were using webcam probably from our computer $0. We’re using an internet connect.
Probably $0, if not, just go to your local Starbucks. There’s really no excuse. I’m using a more professional microphone, but you can just use the one on your phone or your computer, and you’re good to go. And the true beauty about the internet and the true beauty about online software is that you can really start a wildly profitable seven, eight figure business.
With everything just from your laptop, you get time, freedom, location, freedom, financial freedom, straight out the gate from the laptop. And you don’t need any expensive equipment. We’re not trying to be like Steven Spielberg or James Cameron and direct the next avatar. We’re not trying to do something crazy better.
We’re just trying to share expertise, package of what’s inside our head into the online world. And so in terms of capital it’s really, you can start with $0. It’s just about the desire to help more people and translate what you already know into into an online format that does not require a time, which leads me to the second question, which is how much time does it require.
A lot of programs out there that teach you, how to do online courses or Amazon FBA or let’s face it. If a doctor wants to build site income there’s a few typical options that people tend to talk about. There’s real estate. You’re going to need a huge car starting capital just to invest in real estate.
They have some skills, to sculpt the properties, to determine what’s a good fit. And what’s not because that’s actually where that’s actually where most of the value is in determining what is a good investment and what’s not. And most of us, aren’t going to develop that overnight. We’re going to have to commute.
We’re going to have to file in paperwork. It’s a lot of maintenance, right? You might even need a manager of your. During a war chest of real estate investments. On the other hand, there’s like things like stocks investing in the S&P 500, but that would only returns 8% return on investment each year, 8%, eight to 11%.
And so then there’s things like crypto, which is high risk, high reward is basically it’s some people might even say it’s gambling, and there’s a lot of research. It’s a lot of energy required. It’s a lot of time, but there’s not a lot. Side incomes that you can start that does not require any of your time.
Even if you wanted to start a official business, like a brick and mortar private practice, you’re going to need staffing costs. You’re going to need to hire, manage people, fire people, then there’s payroll. Then there’s also the rent. It’s a lot of starting capital, but in the digital. There’s not a lot of starving capital that’s necessary to start an online business software.
Like the one we’re using right now, Zoom is inexpensive. In fact, it’s completely free. And so things like PowerPoint slides. It’s completely free recording software, completely free. And so they could answer for you is that it really takes you $0 to start an online business. There’s really an compared to a lot of other online businesses out there.
Things like Amazon FBA drop shipping, those require a lot of starting capital. It requires you to have stock and requires you to have inventory, whereas with a digital product such as an online. Zero. It’s just, you can patch it up with Google slides and then launch that online course within the first one or two weeks.
Dr. Mike: Yeah. You don’t even need PowerPoint. Like you said, you could just do Google slides. Like you didn’t have enough money. I hopefully if you have enough money to buy a PowerPoint, you don’t have to be. But by a lot of stuff, especially when it comes to, information using your existing knowledge.
And that gets me to talking about like niches. So a lot of people say, I want to do this niche and I’m a doctor, so naturally we’re going to gravitate towards health niches, but your students have done a lot of different niches right outside of health. Is that correct? Yeah. Yeah. You want to expand on that?
For example, I don’t, you don’t have to give away niches, but maybe overall, what type of niches are they?
Yeah, that’s a good example. We have doctors helping doctors. We have doctors helping patients. We have doctors helping medical students. It’s really all about the, at the end of the day, it’s all about the expertise that you’re bringing onto the table.
And so a lot of doctors, they would just teach what they’re doing. We have a student that’s teaching things like hormone replacement therapy. The four working with me. She had no she had all these different ideas. Like she was about to start a book. She was about to start consulting and she was charging exactly what you were mentioning, like $10, maybe a few hundred dollars for a consultation.
But with the consultation, it requires your trading of time for money. It’s a one-to-one kind of input. And so as long as you’re trading your time for money, you’re gonna break free from that system. And so what we helped her do is essentially package your course so that she’s helping I believe it’s young females or middle aged females with hormone replacement therapy, simply packaging, the expertise that she already had through decades of practice into an online course.
And now it’s generating it’s. Now it’s an asset, a cashflow asset that produces income for even while she’s at the clinic. Even while she’s traveling the world, spending time with her family and doing the things that she loves, even when she sleeps. And so that’s an example of a doctor helping most of the patients or like the general public, but we’ve also had doctors, helping doctors somewhat a few of our th there was one of my very successful students.
He basically teaches other doctors how to start their own private practice, their own dream practice. And like just. And yeah, like within the first 30 days he was already doing 30,000 us and back then he was still charging. 1500, right? So $1,500 for 20 students in one month. That’s 30,000. And so ever since then, it’s just been growing and growing.
He’s recently increased this price to 3,500. So you can imagine the numbers he’s generating there as well. And I remember it was very exciting watching him grow because just within the first 30 days he was already generating a 2000% return on the best spent, which means one daughter. $20 out in a month.
You’re not going to get that in the stock market. You barely get 8% in the stock market. You barely get 10, 20% into real estate. If you know what you’re doing. And that’s a lot of what too. And so if you’re getting like a 20 X, a 2006, Not just each year, but each every 30 days that compounds month over month, because you can simply reinvest those profits.
$1 and $20 in $400 out, $400 in you get the point. And so it just creates a snowball that really, it takes a little momentum to get started, to push the snowball up the hill. But once it works, everything clicks, then the snowball. At the moment, it just carries itself and just generate income while you’re sleeping, traveling the world, spending time with your children, doing the things you love.
As I founded a site called physiciancoaches.com. There’s a lots of different coaches out there, but interestingly, very, a very small percentage have. Online courses they’re coaching, they love coaching. I’m sure you’ve seen that too. What do you have to say to them about using online course as a source of extra passive income?
Chester Zoda MD: Yeah. So it really depends, like at the end of the day, we don’t work with everybody and this program, or like online courses in general, isn’t for everybody. And so it really depends on their course or their consulting offer. I believe that, especially in the today’s day and age, if you’re offering any.
Like advice, expertise, knowledge, information that can easily be packaged into online course format. Especially in today’s age, like a lot of us that we listen to podcasts. We listen to audio books. We watch YouTube videos, we watch educational courses. And because of that, a digital course is a very easy to consume format for the average listener or for your students.
And I know for myself, I personally invested or. 120… $150,000 us just in 20, 21 alone on my own education. And that’s the way I learned the best, because if you really want to learn from the best of the best and the specialized knowledge you just gotta invest in yourself. And most courses I, sorry, most coach.
Most physician coaches know that because that’s where their clients come from right there. They’re wanting to invest in themselves as well. And so if you were able to just simply but the problem with that model, the coaching model is that it requires a time. So no matter what you do, you only have 24 hours in a day, just like you said, and.
It’s not really positioning yourself in a chance to succeed because just like the billionaire investor, Warren Buffett says unless you find a way to make money while you sleep, you will always work until the day you die. And so even as a physician coach, you might be a bit more leveraged because you’re using the online world, but you’re still trading hours for dollars.
You’re still trading your flesh for money essentially. And so with the online course, though, you are able to package information. So that it is independent from your human, from your human flesh. And so it just exists on the online world. It’s able to remove yourself from the delivery of the information and the knowledge that you already have while still getting your clients the results that they want.
And we see this happen a lot outside the medical space. I know because I’ve been I’ve been a speaker or like a member in multiple seven, eight figure masterminds. And I know that a lot of coaches, especially in things like the fitness space or like the investing space or things like that. Like at the health and wellness, the relationships kind of space.
All of them started off as coaches when they work with clients one-on-one but transitioned into an online course model and they were able to they were able to remove themselves, save up all their time. So that is no longer, depending on the time and generate income. That is no longer that is actually scalable.
That’s actually another benefit about digital products because you just need to set it and forget it, create it once, and then you can sell infinite copies. And so there’s a lot of benefits with online courses. I can keep going on and on and talk your ear off. But a
Dr. Mike: That’s the name of the game, the is the business scalable, can you go and, if you are having your own clients and you’re helping with that’s great.
Unless you increase your price. You’re not going to be able to increase your hours. So there is a fight. Amount that you’re going to make until you realize that things like courses, things like, producing live events or a live group, coaching is really going to help you scale. So let’s talk about it cause you really light up.
When you talk about your students, you want to share you mentioned that the one doctor who sells how to start your private practice and making a nice living, doing that. Can you share any other success stories from your students?
Chester Zoda MD: Yeah. So it really depends on what niches you’re talking about. Cause we’ve worked with people like medical students. Like I remember one girl worked with me back when she was a medical intern. Now she’s obviously entering residency and she started a program helping female physicians. We have doctors that are helping students enter medical school, like pastor pre-med admissions.
We have… I guess the best way to categorize it, just the best way to categorize it is really doctors, helping doctors, helping patients up to Southern medical students. So with doctors, helping doctors, typically it’s like private practice, helping doctors invest in real estate, helping doctors start a certain business opportunity, helping doctors pay off their student loans.
That is a very stirring niche, right? Helping doctors with certain things like Financial freedom other income opportunities. Then we have doctors helping doctors, helping medical students with anxiety, stress, exam prep pre-med admissions. And those are the big ones.
Those are the big ones. And then we have doctors helping patients, things like weight loss. So we have we have we have a gentlemen, he started a course called. “Middle aged women, lose weight without exercise in under 30 days.” And so a lot like this is a diet that he essentially pioneered without giving his entire course away, but he essentially pioneered some sort of diet that can help middle-aged women lose that weight in 30 days.
And then there’s also things like helping patients like the hormone replacement therapy example that I shared just now there’s dementia patients. There’s it just goes on and on really. It depends on whatever whatever you’re passionate about, whatever niche you’re passionate about serving.
That’s where I typically tend to go first. And I work really closely with my students because it’s not really about bar which market is the most profitable or which market is, has the most demand you can make any course idea. Any there’s a huge market out there, but it all comes down to what you’re personally passionate about and what you want to teach.
And a lot of doctors don’t even have the self-awareness to realize that, which is why step one of our entire program is to get crystal clear on who you want to serve and what you want to teach, because all of us have something that. All of us is just one course idea away from say a million-dollar passive income each year. And so it’s really just a period of self-reflection and introspection thinking back on who I want to serve, what I want to teach. And that’s where we, that’s where all the magic really happens.
Dr. Mike: I love it. I love it. It goes back to when you were saying, in terms of a niche is, I like to think of it as who do you want to hang around with?
Who do you want to help? Who have you historically helped? Many of us give… free advice? They ask us the questions. We don’t think of ourselves as an educator, but we have this knowledge and I actually feel that if you have knowledge that can help somebody that can make an impact in someone’s life, all those examples will make tremendous impact in some of these lives.
Then you actually, it is your duty to get the word out, and not just keep it to yourself. If it can help someone, then I feel you really owe it to the world. To let them know and then getting paid more for it, that’s even better. So this has been great gesture. I know you had a lot of success with your students, so how can someone listening to this?
Chester Zoda MD: Sure. So I would say just join my free training. It’s completely free. It talks more about the opportunity, like what this actually is, how our students are making like 10 to 20 K per month, passive income in 90 days or less just by selling the expertise that they already have. It talks more about what the current landscape of the medical field is as well.
This is essentially a $350 billion industry that a lot of doctors just don’t know, where a lot of doctors I can only speak for myself, but when I was working in the emergency room with my colleagues, all of us are just so focused on the day and day. It’s almost like surviving the paperwork, surviving the insurance, surviving the surviving, the patients, and We just forget that there’s a giant world out there.
We have Amazon replacing Walmart in the commerce side of things, and then we have Netflix, repacing, Blockbuster in the entertainment side of things. And then we have Harvard Medical School slowly disintegrating moving online. And so we’re seeing the same transition happening in education in 2022 alone this year.
E-learning the e-learning economy is estimated to explode up to a 350 billion valuation. And so this is a giant opportunity that if you simply just, especially as doctors, we’ve already put in the groundwork with. Went through medical school. We already went through years of training. There’s so much that our patients are already paying us for that.
Our hospitals are already paying us for, because of what’s inside here. And so if we simply just package it onto the online world, we can really position ourselves to success. Just like you mentioned, a revenue generating asset that creates. Cashflow even while you’re sleeping, even while you’re at the hospital, even while you’re spending time with your family, doing the things you love.
And so if you’re even just remotely interested about learning more about this opportunity, I just check on my website Chester, zillow.com and I’m sure Dr. Mike is also going to include some links as well. I created a lot of my resources for free and on my blog as well. So you can learn more about this, see if it ticket fit and.
I would highly encourage you to speak with a member of our specialist team because our applications are invite only, and you can, you can’t buy this pro you can’t join us or join a digital doctor community just from a checkout page. You can’t do that. It’s invite only because we want to make sure that every student that we bring on board, we can actually help and are actually qualified for and actually qualified for our community.
And yeah, I hope this was helpful in that.
Dr. Mike: Yeah, this has been an awesome gesture. I think, if you have been considering getting an online course, you have it in your head in, and you’re never done. This is a perfect opportunity. We’ll leave a link here for you. You can go out and check out, see if it’s right for you.
This has been great. You were able to retire from medicine doing this, and now you help others to do any last minute words before we end the call today?
Chester Zoda MD: No, it’s been it’s been a pleasure being on this podcast. I’ve been following Dr. Mike’s content as well. Like back when I was just starting out it seems like a long time ago, but I think I really like what Dr.
Mark is doing because a lot of physicians, they just don’t have this awareness that there’s a huge world outside of just the hospital or the clinic or the day-to-day grind. That is a way to really generate passive income. There’s a way to not even just generate passive income, but like financial. freedom like a replacement plan to go into enter nonclinical careers.
And it really just starts with believing in yourself, believing that you have, what’s what it’s worth. If you’re as a doctor, you are a hard worker. You have to be pretty intelligent. Why not? Why don’t we just give ourselves some of that credit and. And really put our expertise to work, to help more people, but on our own terms.
And if you’re watching this, I would highly encourage you, whether it’s an online course, whether you’re just interested in generating a financial wealth, whatever it is, just take that first step just to learn a bit more, more about it. And it really can change your life because it’s been true for myself and it’s been true for my students. I’ve seen it first. And it really just starts with the leap.
Dr. Mike: That was awesome. Again really appreciate you coming on the show. It’s really. To get to know you a bit more. And also just, I can tell by, you’re you’re an educator and you want to help other people.
They want to do this and invite them to this really exciting world about just sharing their knowledge and getting paid for it with others. But it really comes down to, if you’re listening to this, it really comes down to. Motivating yourself. You can, we could talk about it. We can research about it, but until we actually do it is when the, really, the learning starts.
And to having a mentor behind you, showing you the rubs, giving you the shortcut to success, that really is the way to keep moving forward.