Pilots are forced to retire at age 65. An aircraft controller is not allowed to work after they turn 56. Yet we all know some doctors who work in their 80s and even 90s (!). But how many physicians do you know plan to retire at 40? Dr. Nneka Unachukwu, also known as “Dr. Una”, is not like most physicians.
This pediatrician started her own private practice, Ivy League Pediatrics, but from the beginning, she built the business to work without her. She saw too many examples of practices falling apart if the doctor-owner was not available 24/7. Retirement for her is to see patients because she wants to, not because she has to. And I think many doctors would love to be in that position. Sensing a need to help doctors become their own boss, she founded EntreMD, a platform created to help physicians embrace entrepreneurship, attracting those who want to build businesses similar to hers. It’s an inspiring story that you’ll want to hear again and again!
TRANSCRIPT
Dr. Mike Woo-Ming
I love to interview doctors who want to become their own boss, doctors who are entrepreneurial. And it makes sense being a physician entrepreneur. So I really enjoy it when I have to be able to interview a kindred spirit here. And this is someone that I’ve heard of, for quite a while it’s kind of in the background, doing a lot of great and important things and helping other doctors become their own boss. And she is a pediatrician by trade, but she doesn’t work full time. She actually just worked one day out of a week. So I wanted to know more exactly what she’s been doing to be able to afford that and be able to have the life that you’ll soon find out that she that she’s always dreamed of, I believe so. Before we begin, I’d like to introduce Dr. Nneka Unachukwu…did I say that right?
Dr. Una
I’ll give you a B plus. That was great.
Dr. Mike Woo-Ming
B plus! Correct me please correct me, please.
Dr. Una
Oh, it’s U-na-chuk-wu, you did great!
Dr. Mike Woo-Ming
Okay, but they know you if you’ve been online if you’ve been on social media, you may know her as Dr. Una, she’s the founder of EntreMD. We’re going to talk more about that. But Dr. Una, once again, thank you for coming on to the call today.
Dr. Una
Thank you so much for having me. I’ve been following you, I’ve been a fan for many, many years. So this is so cool to be on your podcast.
Dr. Mike Woo-Ming
Well, I appreciate it. So just like in the comic books, I’m kind of a comic book nerd. I love to hear about origin stories. You know how they Peter Parker becomes Spider Man, Bruce Wayne become Batman. So how did Dr. Una become I guess EntreMD? How did that transition start?
Dr. Una
Well, so I, I started off at you know, when I was done with my pediatric training, I did what, you know, most doctors would do, I got a job. And you know, was my first job, attending job. Amazing. And I worked for a doctor who was a neonatologist. So he owned the practice, but he didn’t work in the practice because of conflicts of interest and all of that. So technically, I was a solo practitioner, you know, that was that was my first job, which was in the beginning, very, very nerve wracking, but I got used to it. And towards the end of my contract, you know, my boss is like, here’s a five year contract. And to put it in perspective, I just finished a three year residency, I’d been married for three years, I thought five years is very long to do anything, you know, I’m not doing a five year contract. And, you know, and I needed to move anyway, so I wasn’t gonna stay. And I was like, you know, I would love to stay. I really enjoyed it here. But I have to move. And he’s like, okay, so if you’re gonna move, just start your own practice. I’m like, nobody starts their practice a year out of residency, like, that’s not how this works. And at the time, I was pregnant, like, and I’m like, I’m about to have the baby. He’s like, Listen, everything you’re going to do for your practice you’re practically doing here for me. And if you have questions, I will answer them. And I’m like, but I’m going to have a baby. He’s like, Yes, in the beginning, you have no patients, and you have a baby. And then the baby gets older, you have more patients and have more time for your patients. So go start practice. And I was like, okay, and this is why I say ignorance is bliss. Because a number of other things happened and I ignorantly was like, oh my god, I’m just gonna go start a practice. And I started a practice. And then I found out that I had enrolled in the school of hard knocks, because I didn’t know anything about entrepreneurship. And I was a very shy, very introverted introvert. And everything that makes a business work has to do with putting yourself out there and I was like, I’m not doing that. I no, I you know, I was shy, I was painfully shy. And, you know, I had to, but I had the business right? So I came to this point where I was like, okay, come to Jesus moment, you’re gonna have to do this. And I started delving into personal development and learning about, you know, marketing, kind of, learning about sales, and I came to this point where I was like, you know what, this is is a learnable skill. Brian Tracy always said that all business skills are learnable skills. Like selling is a business its a business skill that’s learnable, marketing is learnable, I’m going to learn this, and I embrace my role as an entrepreneur. And I learned it. And I got the practice to work and I got it to be profitable. And I hired other people to work with me. So I can be a true CEO not doing all the work in the practice. And so we build it up, you know, it’s a seven figure practice. I’m enjoying it, right. And I have this moment where I’m like, wait a minute, but there are many Dr. Una’s out there who have started practices or started businesses, they could be not practices. And they’re struggling. And they think it’s because something’s wrong with them. Because I thought, other people were better than me. That’s why they’re building better businesses. And they’re not better than you, they just know, something you don’t know. And that was the beginning of EntreMD. And I was like, I’m going to help all the Dr. Una’s out there who are afraid of putting themselves out there that think they’re not good at business, they can do business well. And this is going to be a platform that’s going to help them just do that. And so that was almost two years ago. And that’s how EntreMD was born.
Dr. Mike Woo-Ming
I love it. I want to I want to go back to those hard times. So you had, I guess, would be kind of a mentor of yours. Or he just gave you the go ahead to start the practice. How long had you been struggling in that practice? How long did that take for four years finally saw profitability?
Dr. Una
Well, actually, the, we kept our overhead pretty low. And so we were…
Dr. Mike Woo-Ming
It was just you at the time, or just did you have an MA or a nurse or?
Dr. Una
It was just me. So I would, this is how bad it was right? I was so scared of the money piece of it. Like, what if I don’t make it work? How am I gonna afford to pay somebody else and all that? In the beginning, I did everything myself. I answered the phone, I had an alter ego called Ella. Thank you so much for calling Ivy League Pediatrics, this is Ella, how can I help you? Right? And it’s so funny. I had somebody call you and say give them the whole Ella speech. And they’re like, this is a doctor, you know, my name. Lots of consonants right there. Does the doctor have a thick accent? Like, would I be able to understand? And I’m like, No, I think you’ll be I think you’ll be just fine. You know? So I answered the phone, I did my billing, I did all of that in the very beginning. I had no patients. No patients, no big fund anywhere. I mean, like that was a year out of residency. And so I started with that. So even hiring my first MA was a big deal, like, wow not have to cough out all this money and and pay the person. So within six months, I think that’s what it was, we’re at least paying our bills, right? Like, there was no profit, but it was paying its own bills.
Dr. Mike Woo-Ming
Did you have to get loans to get started or…?
Dr. Una
So I applied initially, and I wasn’t asking for a whole lot. I think I was asking for 50 grand or something. I knew nothing.
Dr. Mike Woo-Ming
Which is nothing, in terms of a practice, right?
Dr. Una
Which is nothing I know, right? Yeah, I know nothing. Right? And, um, and they’re like, No, we don’t do loans like that if you want 250,000. And I was like, 250,000 that’s like a whole other medical degree, like what? You know. And so, so I didn’t do that. We literally bootstrapped like, literally started with Practice Fusion, which was a free EHR at the time. We had a little office with three exam rooms, which is all you need for one provider and you know, stuff like this so we literally started little, and then grew from there, you know, we bootstrapped.
Dr. Mike Woo-Ming
Now, did you get that? I know, you said it was about six months, but whatever time I’m sure you got, like, notices in the mail. Hey, we’re looking for a pediatrician in this beautiful place. You know, starting at this amount. Did you ever get like drawn in or were you like, you know, I’m just gonna start it and see what happens.
Dr. Una
Well, do I have this story for you? So before I made the decision to start the practice I had interviewed at Emory. Okay, this is a dream job that you work in the urgent care, do shift work, you know, be just be amazing. And I interviewed there in November, okay. and in December, I was like, hey, so what’s up and they’re like, oh, we’re still interviewing other candidates. I’m like, after interviewing me, okay, fine. And then I reached out again in February, and the person was like, What? I don’t think that’s still open. I think we already hired somebody. I’m like, whatever. We signed the lease for the office on March the 30th. Okay, April 1st Emory calls me. And they were like we have a job for you, and when I interviewed they were like, we will start you out PRN, right? So they’re like, I still remember where it was, I was like, oh, do you want the job? I’m like, sure. what is it? PRN? Part time? We’ll give you whatever you want. Part time, PRN, full time, whatever full benefits the whole nine yards. The day after I signed my lease, I literally looked up and I was like, God, you’re funny. Cuz you know if this call came yesterday, I would have probably been like, forget the lease.
Dr. Mike Woo-Ming
Wow. Wow. Well, he’s probably telling you something different there. So yeah, yeah, that must have been tough to say no, but you already signed the lease. Right? So?
Dr. Una
Well actually, I did say yes. But to PRN, right? Because I didn’t have any patients. You know. So I’ll do some 4pm to 12am shifts, kind of, you know, stuff like that. So I did take it. But I would have taken it full time. You know what I mean? Like, I would have just forget that.
Dr. Mike Woo-Ming
But it probably helped you at least in terms of opening up the practice. Because you least have something to fall back on right? If needed which is often.
Dr. Una
Because, you know, I had stuff to pay the bills and all that stuff. So I wasn’t under financial pressure. While we started the practice. So it was great.
Dr. Mike Woo-Ming
Now, when you were opening up your own practice, did you have colleagues who either dissuaded you not to do it? Or maybe encouraged you? I don’t know. In my case, I had a lot of people who told me I shouldn’t open a practice. What was it for you?
Dr. Una
A lot of people said don’t do it. Like, you know, like, practices aren’t working anymore. The big hospitals have bought them up. You don’t know enough. And I think I learned early on that if you’re gonna do things, you talk to people who are doing those kind of things, right. So I didn’t talk a lot about my, you know, building a practice with people I knew would be naysayers. I just didn’t have those conversations, because they’re going to discourage you. And when something is in its infancy stage, you need all the encouragement you can get. Not discouragement. So people did but I didn’t. I kind of kept it from them. I’m like, my principle is don’t give people information they don’t need and as far as I was concerned, that’s just information they didn’t need.
Dr. Mike Woo-Ming
Now, you mentioned that personal development was a big factor for your success. What? When did you start delving into that and who were the kind of I guess, gurus that you kind of followed?
Dr. Una
So um, in the beginning, it was the likes of Brian Tracy, Rich Dad, Poor Dad, and Rich Dad, Poor Dad, you’re like that’s a real estate book. But it talks a lot about the concept of owning a business, versus owning a job. And I think that’s one of the reasons why I built my practice, the way I built it. Where from the beginning, my goal was to build a business that would work without me. My target was by the time I’m 40, I want to retire. Retire meaning, I see patients, because I want to. Not because my practice will fall apart if I’m not there. Right. So I, I go on Mondays, but the practice fully functional, and it’s fine. I did a lot of Brian Tracy because he talks a lot about vision, goal setting, giving up procrastination, time management. Which are all huge if you’re gonna run a business, especially cuz you don’t have a boss anymore. You have to be effective, based on your decisions, not because you have timelines, and deadlines and all of that kind of stuff. But when I was getting ready to start EntreMD, it was a whole new level because at this point, I wasn’t speaking, I would not show up on a podcast like this ever, like, never. And I had to, that’s when I found the wonderful world of coaching. And because I needed for me to go into phase two of my career, which is helping doctors build profitable businesses. I had to reinvent myself. I had to become a different version of myself. It’s still me but a different version. Yeah, and then that’s where that journey started.
Dr. Mike Woo-Ming
Yeah, yeah. I like the same people you like, and yeah, I guess Rich Dad, Poor Dad is uh, you know, he made his money in real estate. But I think his cashflow quadrant book was the one for me, at least that transformed me where, like you said, I built a business, so I don’t really have to work in the business. I mean, and that’s actually a difficult concept for doctors to understand. Because as you know, there are a lot of solo doctors well, there was a lot, but you know, it’s dwindling. But those who are still in existence? They, you know, like for the concierge medicine just to give an example, you know? Yeah, let’s say they have less reliance on insurance, but then they’re relying on being on their cell phone 24 hours a day. And, you know, I have a joke in my practice, when they ask for me that they just want to see the doctor, that’s a bad sign. Because I have nurse practitioners who work in my place, and I’m sure you’ve got something similar. But if they’re just asking for me, and they just want to see me, I actually don’t like that.
Dr. Una
Yeah. And actually, that’s the same thing I did in my practice, where we go look at the reviews, and they’re like, Dr. Una is amazing. And, I’m showing my staff and they’re like, that’s amazing. I’m like, no, that’s awful. I want to read reviews about you, Like, I don’t want it to be about me. Right? You know what I mean? Because I can’t be the face of the business, the everything of the business, and everybody only wants to see me that’s not a business. That’s a job. And you know, the E-Myth Physician will say you work for lunatic, yourself, you know.
Dr. Mike Woo-Ming
And when it comes time to actually even selling the business, which is what we all aspire to do, you’re not going to be there, you know? But sometimes when they try to sell practices, you know, the hospital will say, well, you’re selling the practice, but we’ll give you a million dollars, but you need to work with us for the next 10 years.
Dr. Una
Yeah, which I’m not willing to do any of that.
Dr. Mike Woo-Ming
So when did EntreMD when did that start for you? When did you get the idea for that?
Dr. Una
Well, you asked, so that was in 2018. So it started off like, I I’ve always wanted, you know, it sounds cliche, but I’ve always wanted to help people become the best version of themselves. I believe everybody has greatness on the inside of them. I’m like, people are amazing. They just don’t know it. In the so I started off helping entrepreneurs. So this will be great for everybody listening, who is like I’m afraid of niching down. Okay, this will be so helpful. So I started off helping entrepreneurs. So I did a first conference. And in that conference, physicians were there and non physicians were there. And I’m talking about all these concepts and the physicians there were going like, well, this doesn’t apply to me, this is just for regular entrepreneurs. And the regular entrepreneurs were like, clearly she’s not talking to me, because she’s a doctor. So her situation is different. She doesn’t understand where I’m coming from. And when I noticed that after that conference, I made a decision, I was like, you’re gonna have to pick one. Cuz because you’re talking to everybody, nobody is listening. You have to pick one person to talk to. And then I was like, well, the people I feel most passionate about the people I feel, have a disadvantage are the doctors. We are smart, we have an incredible work ethic, we have access to capital, we know how to do difficult things, we know how to chase down one dream for decades to see come to pass. But we’re handicapped because we don’t have business skills, we cannot translate all of that to a career we like, and a financial situation that we like. So I was like, so doctors it is. And that’s when on EnteMD was born, you know, which stands for Entrepreneurial MD. And so I started doing some one-on-one coaching, and got phenomenal results. And on a whim did a one day event last year on Trinity Life. And it was amazing. We had you know, 47 doctors from eight states and you know, live stream from four countries, something like that. It was really good. And then launch the podcast and did a second event had 321 doctors, it was just great. And yeah, so there was no definite roadmap. I took the next step in front of me and I took the next step in front of me, and here we are.
Dr. Mike Woo-Ming
What are some of the obstacles that you see as a coach with physicians? You know, I’ve done some of that as well. And I know what kind of my bias is, but I’m curious as to as to what you’ve seen, at least in terms of obstacles that you’ve had to help them overcome.
Dr. Una
Well, so one of the big obstacles is the the marketing and selling piece, right? I don’t want to put myself out there because it’s not professional, it’s sleazy. It’s like what a used car salesman would do. And so because we love to help, we will create products, we will create services, but then nobody’s using them, because we’re the world’s best kept secret. I’m like, you have to spend 50% of your time creating this amazing service. But you also have to spend this other 50% telling people about it. And so they can use it. So the thing about wrapping our minds around marketing selling, can be sleazy, if it’s done in a sleazy way. And it can be professional if it’s done in a professional way. It’s, it’s a paradigm shift that we have to make, but it’s a big, big, big obstacle. And of course, the money conversation. Um, we have a lot of hangups about money, like, it’s greed, like, I’m already a 1% earner, how can I possibly be trying to take more money from people, right? I’m not going to start a business. I’m going to start a business to help people but I don’t want anything to do with the money and like, then you can’t help people. Like it goes together a business serves and earns, you can’t separate it. The money’s a thank you note, it’s like you did this amazing thing for me, thank you. But you can’t, you can’t have a big business with a profound impact that doesn’t make money. It doesn’t work. They go together. You know, so that’s really huge. And one that I was shocked by, but I had that too, I didn’t know till after the fact is, I’ve studied for a decade, I paid multiple six figures for my education. I’m done being educated. Like, they don’t say it, but but that’s be like, I’m not going to throw myself behind learning a whole new skill set, because I’m done. I’ve learned enough. I’ve spent enough, I’m not going to pay for coaching. I’ve done enough. And I’m like, it’s not enough. There’s more. I mean, like, imagine, in a decade, going from somebody who doesn’t know anything about medicine to a person who can put people to sleep and wake them up. Who can do spinal taps. Who can replace knees? Who can do heart transplants? What if over the next decade, you threw yourself again, at reinventing yourself and learning new skills. So you’re dramatically different over the next decade? Right? So pay the price, do what you have to do. We haven’t arrived, we can reinvent again, we can. There’s so much in front of us. And it’s a deception to go like, I’m done. Like you’re not done.
Dr. Mike Woo-Ming
Yeah, I guess I haven’t heard that. But I could see in different ways that they said this is too much work, I guess is one way that they kind of phrase it. It’s like, well, you know, it’s, not gonna be you push a button, and then money is gonna come through. I mean, if we could we’d all be doing that, you know, it’s going to take effort.
Dr. Una
Yeah.
Dr. Mike Woo-Ming
And, and your focus is on then building practice. It’s not going to happen tomorrow. But it’s about building the foundation. And a lot of it is up here, right? It’s the mindset, the obstacles that they put in front of them. I’ve seen that. What say you?
Dr. Una
We’re our biggest problem, I my biggest problem. Right? Once I get out of my way, everything becomes better. Everything on the outside is really a reflection of what we think. Right? what’s what’s going on here. And it, I think it takes a level of self awareness to go, this is actually what I’ve been thinking, and all these things I’m thinking that’s actually the way my life looks. So now that I want my life and my business to look different, I’m going to have to change the way I think. And for instance, I thought a lot that people wouldn’t follow me, people wouldn’t pay money for my services. I thought a lot of thoughts like, I’m not the kind of person who can do these things. Says who? Right. But that is such a huge limiting belief because, it affects the way you show up. It effects the way you invest in yourself, effects everything because you don’t really think you’re one of them. And one day, I’m like, who is one of them? I’m one of them if I want.
Dr. Mike Woo-Ming
Now, do you still consider yourself an introvert?
Dr. Una
I’m an introvert. I mean, at the end of the day, I draw my strength from solitude. An idea of a really relaxing time is me walking in a very quiet place, not bothered by anybody, right? My idea of a fun time is me with a book sitting in my backyard. You know, I’m not gonna go to a party and be the life of the party. I will, but I no longer use it as an excuse. So if I need to show up on stage I show up powerfully. Even though I’m an introvert. If I need to go to an event, I know that my net work is my net worth. So I’m going to, I’m going to network, I’m going to build relationships, I’m going to do that. But when I’m done with all that, I want to be by myself. So I’m still an introvert, but I don’t use it as an excuse anymore.
Dr. Mike Woo-Ming
It’s like my wife said, since we went into COVID, cuz she’s pretty introverted. She says, I’ve been working for this for so long, I’m getting this down. But we’re a little tired of it now. But yeah. Once we can network, yeah, I love what you said, the net work is your net worth. Um, you mentioned some success stories, anything you want to share? I know, you’ve been working with some cool doctors and just maybe share some of their stories and how you’ve helped them?
Dr. Una
Yeah. So a number of them I had…and I’ll give some that are, you know, in different stages. So one of the clients I worked with early on she, she’s based in the UK, she always wanted to have a skincare line. And she was just telling me like, yeah, you know, I’ve been thinking about this, you know, like, pipe dream type of thing, right? And all of that. I’m like, so why haven’t you done it? She’s like, I can’t do that. Like, of course, you can do that, you’re a doctor. You can, you can do that. And so we started working together. And within, her birthday was I want to say eight months away, and she was going to turn 40. I was like, how cool would it be that you launch this on your birthday?And we worked together and she founded a company, Dr. Yang Has Skin is what she called it. And she had her own skin line. And she launched it on her birthday, which was totally fantastic for someone who thought, I absolutely 100% can’t do this. I had another doc who had been working in the weight loss space, and she was working in this is more like a coaching, directing type of setup. And wasn’t really doing too much with it at the time. And she had posted a picture of her story and stories of some of her clients, and I was like, gosh, doc, we need to take this to the next level. This is so amazing. She had lost 50 pounds and kept it off for two decades.
Dr. Mike Woo-Ming
Wow.
Dr. Una
Yeah. And she has patients that’ve lost 70 pounds. I was like, what in the world? You know, we started working together. And really my area of focus is the marketing, the selling, putting yourself out there, fix your mindset, so you can figure this out. So it works, whether private practice or coaching practice or your intrapreneur, whichever. And so one day I’m like, okay, so run your numbers, where are we? And she’s like, my goodness, we’ve worked together for a year. And my patient volume has gone up 413% and my revenue has gone up 657%. I was like, what you know, and that’s just to show we can do big things, you know. And so that was really, really super, super cool to watch. And, you know, for the people, who are what I call intrapreneurs, I had a doc who reached out to me, she’s in a private practice working as an employee. And she’s like, I want you to coach me. I’m like, Okay, so what do you want to do? She’s like, I don’t want to leave my practice. But I know there’s more. I’m like, I like you, you’re so great. And then so what we started doing was building out her personal brand. Because I believe that even if you’re an employee, you’re an entrepreneur, you work for You Incorporated, you may lease eight hours of your day out to your boss, but you’re the CEO of your brand. And that’s a business, you know? And so we started working on that she builds out a YouTube channel, she starts speaking in the community, and all of this stuff. And we were doing this so that there was no partnership track on the table. But we’re doing this so that she’ll be able to negotiate for partnership at the end of her first year. And you know, and for four day work, and all of this stuff. And she starts working on these things. The practice goes like 90% of our website traffic came from the YouTube channel.
Dr. Mike Woo-Ming
Wow.
Dr. Una
Yeah. And you know, and then all these people are like, you know, she’s getting appointments from, you know, speaking gigs in the community and all this stuff. And her boss reaches out to her and says, I want to put you on a partnership track. I’m gonna hire somebody else so we can give you a four day workweek. And this was what we were working towards. And that’s what she got without even asking, because she built her own brand. And to the doctors listening, if you’re an employee you don’t wait till you start a business your business starts now. Your brand your business, and what you’ll do is you put yourself in a position where when they want to lay off, you’re not really the kind of person they lay off, because you affect the bottom line. It puts you in a position where you can negotiate for stuff because you affect the bottom line, it puts you in a position where if they say, we don’t care, we are going to mess you up and we are sending you out of here, you already have practices, or businesses or hospitals in line waiting, because they know, oh, this person is available. We want her on our team.
So we’re all entrepreneurs.
Dr. Mike Woo-Ming
I love it. There’s always more, there’s always more. And what’s interesting, too, is she didn’t even realize her success that she had. And I think I think that’s why it’s important to have whatever you do at least have an accountability partner, because we always minimize our own successes. Yeah, so we did this or, you know, like, she says, I’ve kept the weight off for 20 years, and she probably wasn’t making it a big deal. It just, yeah. And sometimes it just has someone, you know, whether it be a coach, whether it be a friend, you know, get together with somebody just to keep yourself accountable and to help, you know, push you forward, because as you know, entrepreneurs can be very lonely business. Yeah, right. It can be very lonely. And so it’s, I think, essential to have a coach or a mentor to help push you forward. Dr. Una, where can they go to find out more information about you and the different services that you offer?
Dr. Una
Well, so for the people listening on the podcast, there is a podcast, The EntreMD podcast. So same platform you’re on just type it in E n t r e MD podcast, and we talk shop all day every day. That’s what we do on there. And you can find me on social media, my handles are @Drunachukwu, which Dr. Woo-Ming will be so kind to put in the show notes, there enough consonants there, hope you don’t misspell it.
Dr. Mike Woo-Ming
I hope not, I will make sure.
Dr. Una
And, you know, for people who are like, I want to take next steps and stuff like that. This year, we did launch the EntreMD Business School, which has been so cool. And it’s all about helping doctors get out of their way, stop being the world’s best kept secret, and actually build businesses that create the platform for financial freedom so that we can live life and practice medicine on our terms, which is what I wanted to do from the beginning.
Dr. Mike Woo-Ming
I love it. I love it. This has been fascinating. I love speaking with fellow physician entrepreneurs, any last minute words before we end the call today.
Dr. Una
For everybody out there, I’ll just say, just do it. This is something that I think about a lot. And I’ll tell it to you. Think about the 90 year old version of you. And the things they would wish you said yes to Yes. Entrepreneurship can be scary, but so many people have done it. And most people do it scared spitless. They just look bold on the outside, but they’re scared spitless right? So say yes to yourself, whether that’s starting a business or that scaling a business. Say yes. And build it and do scary things and do hard things. And just imagine when you’re 90, your kids and all the people you’ve impacted come to celebrate you because you said yes. So don’t hold back. Don’t let your fear stop you. Just say yes. It’s an adventure. You’ll love it.
Dr. Mike Woo-Ming
I love it. I love it. Dr. Una, thank you again. Check out her website EntreMD you can find her podcast. You can find her on social media. Thank you so much. This has been a very elucidating time we spent together Thank you again.
Dr. Una
Thank you so much for having me.
Dr. Mike Woo-Ming
And thank you everybody as she says: Don’t be stagnant. Don’t be scared. Find out what’s gonna happen to your 90 year old self. You don’t want to live your life with regrets. Whatever you do, don’t put yourself off for the next day. Just always keep moving forward.
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